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Post by Ninmast on May 6, 2008 20:48:08 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm feeling particularly lazy tonight. I figure I did my workload pointing it out. ;D
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Post by Teh Donut on May 6, 2008 22:53:59 GMT -5
Psh...yea...what do you think I am, an admin or something?
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Post by Ninmast on May 6, 2008 23:26:56 GMT -5
Naw, couldn't be ...
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Post by Teh Donut on May 13, 2008 19:54:40 GMT -5
In reading through the thread again, I realized (in addition to the epiphany that there are people who think that no religious discussion should go to not even the remotest trace of religion at all just like athiests have warped Freedom OF Religion in the Constitution into Freedom FROM Religion) that you never included the exception for double-posting below, shortened or otherwise. Hmm, how about this? "Double posting is prohibited on the boards, except under the very rare instance where it is used for important updates. An "important update" constitutes as: A relevant edit or addition to a character profile. (For example, a previously incomplete character finished, or a major flaw fixed) New information on the subject of the thread. (Not spam or unimportant side details, actual information.) A notification in a RP discussion thread stating the RP in question has begun. This type of double posting is also above the necroposting rule, but only on the character edit/update post. Please do not abuse this rule and make up a character edit just so you can bump his/her/its thread. If you have a relevant reason to bump your character profile, and it does not pertain to the double posting exception statement, please contact a staff member." Suggestions? Those are really the only instances I can think of where it is acceptable. Alrighty, this has been edited in to General rule #1.
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Post by Ninmast on May 14, 2008 16:44:13 GMT -5
Er, actually, there's one other thing. How about a rule to limit what threads can have polls? It seems to me anyone who is making a new thread that isn't an RP or a L337 game lately wants to put some poll on their thread, even if it has nothing to do with their thread. One that comes to mind is EJP's were the only purpose was to ask if he was going to get banned, which there was no reason to think he would and it was really nothing but spam.
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Post by Teh Donut on May 14, 2008 21:18:16 GMT -5
I really can't agree to this...sure, we could say that random nonsensical polls could be considered as some form of low spam and treated as such, but there's the problem that enforcing this would would be a complete matter of the enforcer's perspective and opinion. For example, you see EJP's poll as simply spam. I see it as a public opinion poll on his recent action. Where you might delete the poll (for it is spam in your eyes), I would keep it and enforce the outcome (as it is a poll of public opinion, and the voice of the public must be upheld).
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Post by Ninmast on May 14, 2008 21:37:31 GMT -5
The voice of the public should be respected, but not always upheld. The voice of the public may demand we all jump off a bridge. That doesn't mean we should do it.
His poll had nothing to do with his thread outside of the thread being the "act" he referred to. I've seen it in other situations, as well, and it's just getting out of hand. People think every time they post an idea, they need a poll with fifteen different options.
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Post by Teh Donut on May 14, 2008 23:02:27 GMT -5
You can hardly compare jumping off a bridge to calling for a ban...
*Shrugs* If they want to make pointless poll options, then that's their prerogative. If the poll is related to the topic at hand, we don't have a leg on which to stand for calling it spam.
A thread on what sort of rp people want to start, but with a poll titled "Penor" and an option of "lulz" is quite another matter entirely...
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Post by Ninmast on May 14, 2008 23:07:47 GMT -5
Considering both represent a permanent removal from a society, I think it's an adequate comparison.
To me, making some smartalleck poll of, "Hey guyz u think ill finally get baned 4 this 1 lolz" is more than unrelated to a topic starting an unofficial award ceremony. He wasn't asking if people liked the idea or how many awards there should be (things that would be on topic), he just wanted to know if anyone thought the mean, cruel administrators were going to ban him for it. And that's the kind of garbage we don't need. It takes up space and wastes everybody's time.
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Post by Teh Donut on May 20, 2008 15:04:57 GMT -5
Considering one is pure idiocy upon which the world society as a whole laughs, and the other is the most basic foundation of several real governments, the comparison fails to fly. Takes up space? Hardly, I've seen sigs take up more space than these "useless" polls. Wastes time? There's a simple solution to that...ignore the poll. It's not so hard, it only shows for your first fourteen posts. (Jeebus, the logic is blinding! ) If the poll is on topic or related to the topic, even if it's "you think i'll get b& for this," it's not spam. I don't really care whether or not you get pissy about it, or whatever your reasons may be for suddenly holding this vendetta against polls. Personally, I like polls. Love polls. I find them exceedingly fun, and they break up the monotony of regular forum activity with something more to do, even if just for five seconds. If you want an addition to the spam rule on this subject, then fine. I'm not adding it, as multiple other rules cover the subject of "no spamming" and "remain on topic", and I'll be damned if I'm going to approve a rule influenced purely by personal feelings and opinions. In other news, while not necessarily any sort of rule, I think we would do well to add this to the beginning or end of the rules.
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Post by Ninmast on May 20, 2008 19:46:52 GMT -5
I definitely agree with that last part, hilarious. As for the rest, I assure you this isn't based on "personal feelings and opinions." I believe such things are spam because they contribute nothing to the thread and paint an ill light over the staff. Am I against all polls? Not remotely, but if they don't contribute anything to the thread, then they're spam. If you believe these polls are covered adequately under the present rules, then we don't need to add anything. This thread is for revising the rules and that's why I brought the topic up.
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Post by Teh Donut on May 21, 2008 1:50:33 GMT -5
I feel we're good...I did take care of what needed done, right? Can we...uh...implement (sp?) this now? We've been at this for seven months. ;D
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Post by Ninmast on May 21, 2008 1:55:59 GMT -5
I'm for it, get the approval from Kainus and we'll be good to go.
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Post by Teh Donut on May 26, 2008 13:01:39 GMT -5
I spoke with Kainus over IM; his internet is acting up. He's good with passing the rules through as they are. He'll come back later and dig into them.
We can always amend them, anyhow.
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Post by Ninmast on Jul 8, 2008 21:04:38 GMT -5
It's been a month and a half. Would you like the honors of posting them?
(And I definitely think that helicopter should be our title image at the very top, just for fun.)
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