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Post by Ninmast on Apr 5, 2009 0:38:43 GMT -5
Try listening to the words the next time you put it in and see if it changes things for you when you realize what you're enjoying.
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Post by Beanybag on Apr 5, 2009 0:42:14 GMT -5
Try listening to the words the next time you put it in and see if it changes things for you when you realize what you're enjoying. I can genuinely say it wouldn't, for almost anything I listen to. I looked up the lyrics to a few of the songs and I still don't understand what they're really trying to say. The ones where I do, it really doesn't bother me. I'm rather easy-going on the whole morals thing, it takes different things to bother me than it does you I think. |
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Post by Toriji on Apr 5, 2009 1:59:22 GMT -5
A word on moral ambiguity.
I see where beanybag is coming from. It's like he has a metronome that spews racist remarks when he isn't in the room, but when he listens to it, it is what he likes. He can disregard the lyrics because that's not what he is really listening to.
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Post by Ninmast on Apr 5, 2009 9:17:53 GMT -5
Racist remarks, sexist remarks, drug abuse remarks, spousal abuse remarks, murderous remarks ...
Have we really reached a low in our culture that we no longer care what anyone says? Are we that insensitive, that amoral, that out of touch with the world around us?
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Post by Teh Donut on Apr 5, 2009 9:24:56 GMT -5
Nope, we've been that low for decades on end. It's certainly nothing new...
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Post by Beanybag on Apr 5, 2009 12:58:24 GMT -5
Decades? Quite a bit longer than that... It's just music. As far as the "psychological fact" that what we listen to becomes us...I listen to far too much music with contrasting lyrics to be affected in such a way as to become murderous/drug abusing/racist from simply listening to some songs. It really isn't a big deal.  |
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Post by Teh Donut on Apr 5, 2009 15:25:54 GMT -5
Point taken. One could argue this is not a "new low", but is simply the same low we've had for centuries. It's not that we're any less "moral" or have any more vices than we did in past centuries...we only have more media through which to express them. *shrugs* It's the same arguement that applies to videogames, really. I play plenty of games full of blood, gore, violence, sex and language, just as I play plenty of "wholesome" games and games that require actual thought. I think it's safe to say that I'm not some foul-mouthed, murderous rapist, and even if all I played were games of the murderous et al variety, I still wouldn't be. I believe they call it "choice" or "free will." Perhaps it's the whole "knowing the difference between fantasy and reality" or perhaps, as is the case of music where it may actually be reality, knowing that the singer's reality is not and does not have to be my reality. Such a shocking notion!  Anywho, I think I'll stop here; debates are not fun, and we won't be debating the issue here; you two can take it to a PM or IM or the like. Personally, I'm not a fan of videogame music spinoffs. This is no different. All it illustrates to me is that this person is too lazy to come up with his own beats, and is too inept to come up with any good lyrics. Honestly, any two-bit ghetto thug can come up with this drivvel. Finally, is this PG-13? I swear all content, even linked content, has to be PG 13 on this site; lyrics that would have a Parental Warning slapped on their label aren't included in that, I'm afraid. I would have let it slide if you had placed some sort of warning in the first post, but I doubt it. Could I get another admin's opinion? |
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Post by Beanybag on Apr 5, 2009 17:51:31 GMT -5
Ah well. Remove the link if you want.
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Post by Ninmast on Apr 5, 2009 18:20:08 GMT -5
It's not remotely PG-13, but I don't feel right just taking it off. If he edited a warning, I think we can let it go.
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