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Post by Ninmast on Sept 27, 2009 21:18:09 GMT -5
It's not a birth certificate, Silva, it's a certificate of live birth. If you had read either the discussion already in this thread or the article, itself, you would be aware of the difference. In fact, the difference is the core issue of this entire discussion. Now, I must ask you to please settle down, and I recommend you read the article before you post again.
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zandyne
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Post by zandyne on Oct 13, 2009 11:04:18 GMT -5
Maybe off topic...but the world is baffled why he would get a Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing at all. How this doesn't reek of some kind of illegitimacy is baffling (also he says he didn't deserve it yet didn't deny it either, what a man of his word!).
Feel free to call that paranoid but anyone with an ounce of common sense must accept that the man has done nothing to earn such reward and prestigious recognition, even if I liked the guy at all he wouldn't deserve it at all.
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Silva
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Post by Silva on Oct 13, 2009 21:52:34 GMT -5
Maybe off topic...but the world is baffled why he would get a Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing at all. How this doesn't reek of some kind of illegitimacy is baffling (also he says he didn't deserve it yet didn't deny it either, what a man of his word!). Feel free to call that paranoid but anyone with an ounce of common sense must accept that the man has done nothing to earn such reward and prestigious recognition, even if I liked the guy at all he wouldn't deserve it at all. I really do agree with this. Obama continues two unfavorable wars and gets awarded with a peace prize? I don't get it either.
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Post by Ninmast on Oct 17, 2009 20:57:36 GMT -5
I thought he pulled out of Iraq? As for Afghanistan, just because it isn't popular with anti-war people doesn't mean it doesn't still need to be done. History shows us that public opinion changes as quickly and frequently as the wind comes and goes. To base the strategy and planning of something as critical as a war on public opinion alone is perhaps the most foolhardy of actions one may take.
However, Silva, the Nobel prizes he was awarded were, not for peace versus war, but for international negotiations (He's basically been a pop star idol since his candidacy, though he still hasn't actually done anything in that field, just a lot of talk.) and for economics, for a stimulus package he had no hand in, largely occurred prior to his inauguration, and has ultimately fallen flat on its face just like everyone outside of lobbyists TOLD Congress it would. If they had, instead, handed it out to the people based on individuals who had filed taxes in the last ten years, each taxpayer would have received a whopping $400,000 dollars. A piece. We could have gone out and spent that money to better our lives, replace our cars, buy houses, pay off our debts, and THAT would have stimulated the economy. That's the car manufacturers, the housing market, the banking industries ... Everything that has actually been complaining of falling apart, and it actually would have worked.
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