Enigma
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Post by Enigma on Oct 4, 2007 12:33:55 GMT -5
Hahaha. It's just occured to me. Subtle; you say you never get mad on the internet. However, I do remember an event in which you were like so: "GRR I FUKIN MAD"
Well, if you're so fucking sarcastic, I suggest that you come meet me up here in Canada so I can settle your SARCASM the right way. Quite frankley, Flame is right. All you do is PISS people off. IE check. Nobody likes you on EAB. Kthx.
However, this is off topic. I apologize.
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Post by The Silent Orator on Oct 4, 2007 15:54:33 GMT -5
Whoa, whoa... I didn't say Subtle pissed me off. I just said that his sarcastic humor, because it's the internet and we can't hear tone of voice, goes over some people's heads and is taken as serious (even though he doesn't mean it).
For people like myself, I apply I=SB. Some people don't do that, but they see the sarcasm in a post. Others do not see the sarcasm. I was simply saying that Subtle's sarcasm is not easily noticible... at least, not to me. The only reason I know he's being sarcastic is that we share the same sense of sarcastic humor... just I don't apply it here, 'cause it gets me in trouble.
But I digress. I've voted already as for the opinions I stated earlier. I personally don't know about the proposition I made earlier about the election idea, as no one has commented upon it yet.
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Post by Ninmast on Oct 4, 2007 16:49:17 GMT -5
I was hoping more people would, but nobody's said anything.
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Post by Veros on Oct 4, 2007 17:46:49 GMT -5
Actually... I made a semi-reference to it when talking to you on AIM Nin... on 9/30 at 11:08 am... >> I basically nominated Flame xD!
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Post by Subtle on Oct 4, 2007 21:53:22 GMT -5
Yes, no body on the eab likes me... even though I know most of the moderators in real life, and am dating someone I met on the eab ( online relationship moved to real life). Flame has stuck up for me before, too.
The people who dont like me are the newer members, the one who flock to high powered rps like flys to a rotting corpse. I'm sorry if Im too cantankerous to be hip by your standards, but thats a burden I'll gladly bare.
And if you dont mind, outside of some of the staff deleting poltical posts they dont agree with, could you offer refrence to me stating my anger?
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Post by Ninmast on Oct 4, 2007 22:05:22 GMT -5
Hahaha. It's just occured to me. Subtle; you say you never get mad on the internet. However, I do remember an event in which you were like so: "GRR I FUKIN MAD" Well, if you're so fucking sarcastic, I suggest that you come meet me up here in Canada so I can settle your SARCASM the right way. Quite frankley, Flame is right. All you do is PISS people off. IE check. Nobody likes you on EAB. Kthx. However, this is off topic. I apologize. Not only was this off-topic, Enigma, but it was also flaming and threatening bodily harm. Very, very out of line.
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Post by EJP on Oct 4, 2007 23:07:15 GMT -5
Umm... Enigma, I was the one that said that all Subtle does is piss people off when he shows up.
Subtle, we know you have always known a mod or two in real life. Why else are you still here? That was ment for both ways as in why do you come here and that is one of the only reasons why you haven't been banned for good. Also, so what if your dating someone from this forum in real life, its the bloody internet, your not the first person ever to do so.
Now to stay on topic, yes I'm still on the fence, but unless my vote is worth more than all of yours, which I highly doubt, it may not matter. Even though *Insert rant on why EJP's vote may be worth more than Subtle's.* Also I've already said what I think on this matter so I shall not repeat it.
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Post by Subtle on Oct 4, 2007 23:28:27 GMT -5
Thank you for missing the point entirely, EJP, I was trying to state that I'm not hated here, I do have freinds. I do not understand why you are and always have been so incredibly hostile to me.
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Post by Enigma on Oct 5, 2007 8:59:49 GMT -5
I dont think members with 3 damn posts should be expressing opnions in this poll. Way to fuck things up and skew the results. Here, this is proof of "GRR I FUKIN MAD" It may not be a great example because of my laziness of looking, but we all know there is some out there. Random Outbursts, swearing and put-downs. It's getting really annoying actually, and I have heard some complains. And I believe you've had an abundance of warnings and such. Which brings my irratation of past results. My apologies EJP. As to you aswell FLame. Must have mis-read that. And to everyone who doesn't know already. I am active again.
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Post by Subtle on Oct 5, 2007 10:42:08 GMT -5
Thats not anger, thats not spectral's intense rage!!![/b] thats simple annoyance with the (imagined) stupidity of some members
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Post by Ninmast on Oct 5, 2007 11:03:10 GMT -5
On the issue of the importance of voting, EJP, I'd just like to mention that there are others who are also still on the fence and some that don't feel like they should vote on something so big. There's enough that I think, in the event all the fence people and the people who are worried about voting all voted to keep me (which probably wouldn't happen), the vote could actually end up tied.
Not trying to sway you, just pointing out that every vote is important.
Now, on the issue between Subtle and Enigma, Subtle knows he was out of line, Enigma, and you need to understand, so are you, in some ways even more so than Subtle was. In the same way that no number of rights make a left, no number of wrongs make a right. Subtle's problem in the quote you made was poor phrasing and a lack of knowledge before he spoke. Your problem is making threats of bodily harm. And you both did your share of flaming.
Now, let's drop the matter and discuss either why I should/shouldn't resign or what are the high and low points of Flame's idea, otherwise we're all getting off-topic dealing with this.
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Post by Teh Donut on Oct 8, 2007 15:19:33 GMT -5
Now, let's drop the matter and discuss either why I should/shouldn't resign or what are the high and low points of Flame's idea, otherwise we're all getting off-topic dealing with this. Agreed. I voted no. Some might be surprised. I've read through the arguments for his removal. I've heartily agreed with most. However, beyond the matter of Ninmast having a habit of sometimes letting things get a little too personal (thus the abuse in power we love to talk about), most of our problems with him can be reduced into a single factor. Ninmast is authoritarian (meaning he enforces the rules to the letter, for those who don't know what it means). On a large board, our rule system would be brilliant. I've read through it and done some thinking (because I really, really get bored in class sometimes...) and really, the system we have could autonomously run an entire major, 100k+ active membership board. It's a work of art, really. The problem is, the Elite Authors' Boards is a small, developing community and needs lots of wiggle room to experiment with what works and what doesn't. The system we have in place is rigid and unyielding. Then people joined who decided to rebel against the system, instead of going through due process to change it. They pushed. Ninmast pushed back. "OMG, how dare an admin enforce clearly defined rules that I'm deciding to disregard instead of change!" they exclaimed, and pushed harder. People were banned, people got pissed, enmity formed, and now we're booting from adminship the one single person who has, in my opinion, done more to create things that actually make the board worth visiting than the rest of us combined. "The bad outweigh the good?" Perhaps we've forgotten. He's pretty much the one who's responsible for making the roleplaying boards the most impressive RP entity I've ever witnessed on the internet. Sure, there were others involved, maybe, given enough time, someone might have come along and done what he did, but the fact remains that he did it. Ninmast has his flaws. That's a known fact. You can probably oust him on the basis of "abuse of power" and give examples and whatnot. Then, like Enigma said, who's next? Who's going to be the one to follow after our Caesar? Et tu, Brute? Not until you can honestly find me someone better suited.
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Post by Ninmast on Oct 8, 2007 15:58:09 GMT -5
Thank you very much for that, Donut. I can't express how touching that was.
You're right, perhaps the rules are strict for such a small forum, but I wouldn't have the first idea of how to loosen them. That's why I started the Review the Rules thread in the first place, to find out what can be done. Unfortunately, it hasn't turned up anything. We had one suggestion to institute a rule quiz, and nothing else has been raised. I've tried to provide ways for people to have their say, but then nobody says anything.
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Post by Teh Donut on Oct 8, 2007 18:03:56 GMT -5
Just doing my usual, saying what needs to be said. I kinda hate it when people cut into every bad point they can find, and ignore the good.
Ultimately, the decision to resign is yours. I'm fine whichever way you decide. *nods*
Besides, I'm not reeeeeeeally here anyway. *popping sound and vanishes, leaving behind a ;D bouncy ball*
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Post by Ninmast on Oct 8, 2007 18:54:57 GMT -5
Thank you for that. Also, if you've got time to stop by the Rule Review thread (also an announcement, so it's easy to find), I'd appreciate to get your opinion on it.
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