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Post by Kainus Maximus on Oct 31, 2007 13:32:26 GMT -5
The entire voting system has become skewed, on BOTH ends there were bad votes. But even without them, the voting is STILL very close, and there is no clear winning side on either end.
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Post by Ninmast on Oct 31, 2007 17:15:42 GMT -5
Wow.. last time I checked this.. the votes were.. 11 for yes.. and 4 for no.. how did it get to 11 for both? To put it simply, more people voted.
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Post by Subtle on Oct 31, 2007 21:41:55 GMT -5
People have different theorys on that.
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Post by The Silent Orator on Oct 31, 2007 22:40:54 GMT -5
Normally, I would say that we should only count the votes that people have posted (and who we know aren't multiple accounts, which can be checked with an IP check), but due to the nature of the poll, it MAY not be beneficial to the poll.
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Post by Ninmast on Nov 1, 2007 11:01:51 GMT -5
Subtle, I don't know what theories you're speaking of, but the truth of the situation is quite simple. Everyone who wanted me out voted all at once, while those who wanted me to stay were slower to come in thus resulting in the seeming "explosion" of votes. That's all, really.
And Flame, the administration has been watching the votes as they come in. Only one was a double-vote.
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Post by Subtle on Nov 1, 2007 11:49:47 GMT -5
Everyone who knew what they wanted voted right away, while other people wore down the remaining members. Many of the yes votes came from different people who would have voted undecided if the poll was given a third option.
I also know you talked to some people on AIM and tried to get them to vote for you, specifically KT, though quite possibly other members too.
This poll should have had a time limit to begin with to prevent some of this foul conduct.
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Post by Kainus Maximus on Nov 1, 2007 12:39:22 GMT -5
I believe some undecideds would simply not vote, such as myself and another.
It is possibly some people may have been "urged" to vote in Ninmast's favor, however, people may have been simply urged to vote, by Ninmast, and the fact Ninmast was urging them to vote, they may have been taking that as saying to vote in his favor, that would be counted as mistranslation. I am also positive, I heard that one person was urged to vote against Ninmast, and they didnt know why. So that's two definites cancelled out. There were people who came out of retirement who voted, so we can throw their vote out the window, and a double vote who shall be thrown out. Thus that's only a difference of 2-3 votes. Which is hardly anything, I'd still call that a tied idea.
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Post by Subtle on Nov 1, 2007 12:43:42 GMT -5
2-3 votes may be a drop of water in the ocean in a country wide election, but with less than 20 votes tallied I think thats a significant enough figure.
As to weather he was urging them to vote or to vote for him to stay, he specificly requested KT vote again to tie the poll, not to vote in general. He tried to influence her to vote on his side specificly, it was not impartial. I do know what you mean by the definites canceling out though.
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Post by Kainus Maximus on Nov 1, 2007 12:47:20 GMT -5
In my oppinion, as an Admin's oppinon, 2-3 is not bad, it simply means that an admin is generally not liked, doesnt mean that they absolutely need to step down.
Your word of mouth is noted Subtle, but if you have proof, I will gladly take a look at it through IMs. Otherwise, I cant count it as proof.
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Post by Subtle on Nov 1, 2007 12:54:55 GMT -5
In a court of law when decisive evidence cannot be found one can only look at testimony.
If I can get KT to say what happened, is that good enough to be proof?
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Post by Kainus Maximus on Nov 1, 2007 13:19:21 GMT -5
This isnt a court of law, and if it were, there are other testimonies to be heard, and from what I heard on the other side, theirs is more believable than what I'm hearing here I'm afraid.
It may be, but like I said, certain things can be said, and simply mistranslated. I would suggest getting those sorted out before hand, then coming back with the "proof"
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Post by Lyn Maliodis on Nov 1, 2007 14:51:14 GMT -5
Please Ninnymasters don't go pwease!!!!!
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Post by bluexco on Nov 1, 2007 15:28:13 GMT -5
the only true way to do this vote, is to open a new thread where ppl post yes or no
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Post by Ninmast on Nov 1, 2007 15:40:30 GMT -5
We just did that, Blue.
And Chronos, the voting was too close. It doesn't look like I'll be stepping down. However, some changes have been made. A new administrator has been named and some policies have been changed to make sure decisions are jointly made.
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Post by This One on Nov 1, 2007 16:31:43 GMT -5
...Really? Who's the new admin. I haven't noticed.
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