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Post by Giant Brother on Sept 30, 2008 17:02:05 GMT -5
Stop making them.
*cough* Allow me to rephrase that into polite terms. As of late, I have noticed a steady and constant rash epidemic… ahem, “flow” of fancharacters recently, namely fancharacters from the Naruto canon. Now, I am not attempting to say that fancharacters are bad. I have a decent amount myself. However, it is my understanding that the RP Character section is for original characters of the RPer’s design, with powers that were thought out and outlined by the RPer him/herself.
That’s not what I’m seeing in fancharacters here.
What I’m seeing is:
Desu Hai No Wa Sushi Chakra Jutsu Gaijin Foomitsu Brownie Explosion of Flying Lulztastic DOOM!!!11!: Nabutto uses the awesome powers of the Ancient-86-Tailed-Chicken-Demon-Of-Cemoniwunailaiu and slaps the enemy with a giant tuna made of jutsu/charka/epic win and obliterates the target into total phail and nothingness. He learned how to do this ‘cus back when he was a kid in the Village of Eternally Jumping Caterpillers a bear brutally killed and took advantage of his parents right before his eyes. So, when he became a No-Kawaii-Taco-Bell-Chuuin-Elmerfudjutsu master, he learned this move, because the tuna symbolizes being victim to a bear…
Okay, so I made that up. But to the viewpoint of some weirdo like me that has NEVER even considered THINKING about Naruto, that may as well be what you’re writing down. No one ever bothers explaining WHAT their fancharacters parameters are because they assume that absolutely everybody in the world must’ve watched/read/played/worshipped the canon that their characters is from. And that’s not how it works. I’m sure I’m not the only one that has felt alienated by a fancharacter or an RP based on canon that doesn’t explain a dang thing to people not already in the know at some point in time, and I would sooner petition the end of fancharacters on this site entirely (and sacrificing my OWN fancharacters in the process - including the ever so often used Cassandra - mind you) before having to deal with that once again.
Therefore, my request is simple. Please, explain what the heck your character is, is not, is capable of, and all the other details the unprivileged original characters must deal with when making a fancharacter. And DON’T just put up a link to wikipedia or some fansite and make us gather info on our own. You’re SUPPOSED to spoon feed us and set the information on a silver platter for us to mince down, not send us on a wild goose chase.
Thank you.
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Post by EJP on Sept 30, 2008 18:07:21 GMT -5
Well isn't this a big subtle F-U to me, This One, and a few other people. Hell, I should right out claim character biggetry on you for this. Do I go around saying "Don't make Emo characters, because they annoy me"? NO! That would be rude and you don't know, that Emo character could actually be an interesting character to RP with. Yes, I know some people out there make you have to do research on things for their own fan character, but have you ever thought that if you don't understand something in the profile, why not ask the person about it? Or are you having this feeling that your left out of the loop? Either way it doesn't matter, we are all allowed to make whatever characters we want... long as their primairy goal in life is not to just go around raping people.
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Post by Kainus Maximus on Sept 30, 2008 19:00:49 GMT -5
Now everyone, stay cool, I think there was some mistranslation in the post... it isnt saying Dont make this kind of character (despite the sarcasm of the intro) but rather people should give more details for those who arent familiar with the fan base. Yes, the sarcasm probably was a bit crude and perhaps unnecessary, but dont take it as the main theme.
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Post by This One on Sept 30, 2008 19:15:24 GMT -5
His post really didn't bother me, EJP.
To better explain the recent influx of Naruto characters, most of them were for the new Naruto RP. I do agree with EJP, though; if there's anything in particular anyone needs explained, they're free to ask. And I'm not saying they shouldn't participate, but if most people don't watch a certain anime, they're most likely not going to take part in a roleplay based solely off of that show. If they don't have enough interest in the show to watch it, why would they want to roleplay about it?
As a side note, there is nothing in the rules prohibiting the creation of several characters from the same show by multiple people. I realize that this is not the point of Giant Brother's post, although his initial comments make it seem so.
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Post by Terethin on Sept 30, 2008 19:48:47 GMT -5
I agree What Giant brother is saying. If you make a character and don't really clue in to people who have never seen the show what something is, even though if you have seen the show it would be a given to know, that is still kind of annoying. It would be like telling someone who's never even heard of naruto that your character has the Sharingan and can use the Chidori. They would have no idea what you were talking about.
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Post by Beanybag on Sept 30, 2008 20:15:30 GMT -5
I think I've only made two fan characters (Star Wars) and I've never used them. What's the big deal with making them anyway. o.O
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Post by Ninmast on Sept 30, 2008 20:22:17 GMT -5
And sure, people are free to ask, but the point is that THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO. You should be outlining all this stuff in your profiles. All of this Class S Genjutsu bull is truly annoying. You know very well that nobody has a freaking clue what that means. And yet all you do is tell them, "Oh, it's the power rating of the jutsus. Go look it up on leafvillage.com." And that's your idea of giving sufficient explanation. I'm not trying to be mean here, but that's just not the way the cookie crumbles around here. I've been keeping quiet on the issue because to be honest, I kinda skim over most of the Naruto profiles and keep up just enough to know what I am talking about. Even though I join the Naruto RPs simply for the sake of keeping up to date with all of the RPs on the site, I still don't have a clue what Shippouden is or what olimarijutsudan is supposed to mean. And another point in his initial post you all seemed to miss. We actually have an entire section where fan characters are supposed to go. Contrary to popular behavior (and yes, I'm well aware we administrators are guilty of it, as well), fan characters are not supposed to go into the original character section on the roleplaying board. And yet I think we're seeing some twenty or more Naruto characters alone. EJP was only half right. Yes, you are allowed to make whatever characters you want so long as they conform to the rules ... and are put in the proper place. And let's all be brutally honest with ourselves. There isn't a single original Naruto character on this forum, save perhaps those who have so little clue as to what the show is about that they just can't help it.
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Post by Giant Brother on Sept 30, 2008 20:42:48 GMT -5
*sigh* I was merely using Naruto as an example simply because it is the most predominant canon concerned. To be frank, I also could've used Star Wars, Death Note, Charmed, Bleach or Smallville. And the purpose of a character sheet is not to throw out a vague description and open it up to a Q and A period, that makes about as much sense as putting all blanks on a character profile and only revealing what it's supposed to be when someone asks. And I wasn't trying to give anyone here a big F U. I'm sarcastic. I've had sarcasm drilled into my head since birth. In fact, I don't see why you're overreacting so much. A more sarcastic and brusque suggestion thread has been made in the past, yet people applauded. If you wish for me to prove my point about the ambiguous descriptions being used on this forum, I will be more than happy to point out cases. Recent cases, even.
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Post by This One on Sept 30, 2008 21:49:45 GMT -5
I'll do my best to clear up any ambiguities about my fancharacters, but it's honestly difficult to determine which ideas people can and cannot understand. I've watched Naruto for so long that I sometimes forget that "jutsu" isn't a common, everyday word.
I don't feel that I explained my attacks/powers in an obscure way, but if I'm wrong, please tell me what I can do to fix it. I know starting by defining any foreign words (kekkei genkai, jutsu, etc.) would be good, and I'll do my best to explain jutsu rank. What else needs explained (pertaining to Naruto, of course, since that's the only fandom I belong to)?
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Post by Terethin on Sept 30, 2008 21:58:47 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is knocking naruto specifically, It's just a prime example. I don't have access to any anime, so any anime based characters I know nothing about. I only know naruto and some other anime from manga I read. Not every anime has a manga though.
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Post by Teh Donut on Sept 30, 2008 22:18:45 GMT -5
Teh Donut...proud owner of no non-canonical fan characters. ;D
Seriously, Ninmast hit the proverbial nail on the thread head. There is a place for your fan characters. Use it. The only reason I've ignored the multitude of fan characters in the character section is due to generally shunning my eyes from there entirely, for reasons I'd rather not bring to this thread.
Well, not the other reasons GB didn't bring up here anyway. Thank you, GB, you win one of these:
[img]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/42/108980225_f04e0e2f3d.jpg[/img] *edit* On another note, I'm going to spend the next hour combing the Character section for these sorts of characters and moving them to the Fan section. I might miss some. Thus, I would GREATLY appreciate it if you all posted them up here...
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Post by Beanybag on Sept 30, 2008 22:27:55 GMT -5
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Post by Teh Donut on Sept 30, 2008 22:33:46 GMT -5
Thank you. I'll also be updating the character registry as I go along, so you don't "lose" any of them. *edits again* Nevermind, I'm tired and have too much else to do. I'll take care of them as they'r eposted, or as I see them.
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Post by Giant Brother on Oct 1, 2008 6:53:05 GMT -5
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Post by This One on Oct 1, 2008 16:30:10 GMT -5
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