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Post by Ninmast on Feb 7, 2008 22:48:15 GMT -5
I'm not discounting your opinions when I say this, but I can't say I would expect surprise as a reaction to you not agreeing with his standpoints. That is, after all, why we have two parties. And I happen to agree with him on the issue of the Bible.
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Post by Silva on Feb 8, 2008 14:54:41 GMT -5
Well luckily for me, Huckabee has virtually no chance of actually getting the nomination. He only has about 200 delegates so far, and McCain has over 700 of the 1,191 delegates needed. He's practically running circles around Huckabee in the presidential race.
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Post by Ninmast on Feb 8, 2008 15:08:30 GMT -5
Yes, he is, which pains me, as I don't think McCain is the man for the job.
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Post by Silva on Feb 8, 2008 18:40:31 GMT -5
Well I really doubt that McCain could ever get elected president, so you shouldn't worry about that. It's mostly because people like Limbagh, O'Reilly, Hannity, Coulter, and all those far right-wing neoconservitives have all declared that they'd sooner vote for the democratic candidate before they'd ever vote McCain for president. So he's lost a significant amount of voters for the general election, giving the dems a real advantage for once, lest McCain somehow receives neocon support or picks a running mate that panders to that crowd.
This is kind of weird for me, since I've noticed some far left democrats are feeling the same way about Hillary. If she gets the nomination most of them will end up voting for McCain just to spite her. A Clinton vs McCain election will give every one of us -- both left wing and right -- and uneasy feeling.
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Post by Ninmast on Feb 9, 2008 0:44:58 GMT -5
Yeah, talk about the ultimate lose-lose scenario. But it sounds like the Hillary Tank is running out of gas. Financial issues and the like. I won't vote for Hillary over McCain if it comes down to it, but I will vote for Obama over him.
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Post by Teh Donut on Feb 10, 2008 7:27:25 GMT -5
I'd rather vote MicCain over Hillary...simply because, like Silva said, he has military experience. Always a plus when your nation's at "war", eh?
I like Huckabee and all, but...he lost me when he spoke on healthcare.
None of that matters anyhow if Obama becomes the Democratic candidate. I'll be voting for him come election time.
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Post by Ninmast on Feb 10, 2008 17:51:05 GMT -5
My voting preference:
1) Huckabee 2) Obama 3) McCain 4) Clinton
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Post by Subtle on Feb 11, 2008 2:09:14 GMT -5
I don't think huckabee should be allowed to run. The constitution specifies a seperation of church and state, and while a reverend is still allowed to become president I think that its much too close to infringing upon that line.
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Post by Teh Donut on Feb 11, 2008 2:50:31 GMT -5
That is, of course, exactly what people said when Kennedy ran for president. Huckabee is no Kennedy, but I thoroughly believe he has a right to lose. Sorry Ninmast, but the way the polls are turning out, it appears that McCain's nomination is imminent...
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Post by Subtle on Feb 11, 2008 8:51:56 GMT -5
errrr What? your logic completely looses me. 2 minutes in wikipedia ( and my prior knowledge) have no mention of Kennedy being a minister. I have no problem with people of different religions in the white house, but I draw a distinction with huckabee because he's a god damn preacher.
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Post by Teh Donut on Feb 11, 2008 9:34:35 GMT -5
The topic is not who's a minister and who's not, but seperation of church and state. Two minutes in history class, and my own prior knowledge told me Kennedy was a Catholic. "Oh God no, we couldn't have a catholic in the White House, he'll answer to the pope and not the people! Seperation of church and state!"
Psh, yea, I've heard that line before... "I have no problem with a black man as president, but I draw a distinction with Obama because he's a goddamn Muslim!" -_-
I wouldn't give a rat's behind if Huckabee was a televangelist; as long as his policies made sense, that's good for me. Thing is, they don't. So I don't vote for him. He's a good guy and all...but no. The "He's a goddamn *whatever*" mentality's pure idiocy, because it means you're obviously looking at the person, and not what he stands for...and it's that kind of backwards thinking that began our spiralling fall into this "quagmire" we're in right now.
*self edited for content*
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Post by Ninmast on Feb 11, 2008 11:30:59 GMT -5
Subtle, watch your mouth. Donut, thank you for your self-control and self-editing.
And actually, Obama's father was a muslim. Obama is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ.
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Post by Donut is too lazy to log in on Feb 11, 2008 16:48:49 GMT -5
I know, I just found that out a few days ago. ;D
I was just illustrating a point; I have actually heard that "excuse." I don't really care what religion he follows (I, personally, would think it cool to have a muslim president. Take that, Middle East!), just so long as he gets the job done.
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Post by Ninmast on Feb 11, 2008 16:56:34 GMT -5
I agree completely. But please don't post as a guest ...
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Post by Teh Donut on Feb 11, 2008 18:22:27 GMT -5
Sorry, just didn't have the time to sign-in at that time.
*edit* My top four:
Obama McCain Gravel Huckabee
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