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Post by Toriji on May 4, 2010 20:04:07 GMT -5
The prince scratched his chin in thought as he listened to the plan. "Well that is quite interesting, and I had not thought of directly using metal in that way. However, your plan won't quite work like you think it will. The problem lies in the difference in pure electricity and my world's electrical energy. He's not actually the electricity, but the source. This plan would deflect his attacks and even stun him more than likely, but definitely not trap or vanquish him." He turned his head to Dantalion almost angry about his comment about the Throne. "The Throne is sacred to us here. We haven't had such a malicious soul absorbed into it for a long, long time, and I'd never even consider tainting it's glory with the likes of Varaj." Whipping his head to the others, he simultaneously wiped the sour look off of his face. "That does give me an idea though. If we can disable him with such a device, then he could be stunned for long enough to vanquish him completely."
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Post by Ninmast on May 4, 2010 21:09:53 GMT -5
It was the rare turn for Camille to scowl at the Bone Prince, and indeed, the look of irritance most certainly did not seem to belong on the en Passent's face. "Your highness, either your knowledge of basic physical science is disturbingly lacking or you are painfully hindering our efforts by failing to call things by their proper name. Either he is a being of electricity or he is a being of something else. It would expedite our process of strategizing greatly if you would cease aspiring to manners in which you may obtain personal glory and focus, instead, on providing us with pertinent data."
All things considered, "venting" Camille really didn't sound all that different from "calm" Camille.
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Post by shinaobi on May 4, 2010 21:23:26 GMT -5
With the halberd still in his hand, Obadiah raised an eyebrow at the woman, saying "You must not have a lot of experience with nobles. They exist for glory. Even came damn near close to being executed once for possessing the unmitigated gall necessary to kill the enemy commander before a princeling managed to fop his way over."
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Post by zandyne on May 4, 2010 22:12:30 GMT -5
Even the Book Demon was beginning to wonder precisely what his highness was trying to accomplish, he was having an even more difficult time deciphering why the prince was being so stubborn as well as to him, what was the misuse of the language as Dantalion grasped it.
"I was unaware that Varaj possessed a soul, forgive my grievous error." Since when did they possess such things? Either this 'elemental' was a special specimen or the heir was less academic than he initially gauged.
Regardless, his patience was still present but his respect was beginning to grind to the quick, "I too would also like more information on how 'this' electricity is so fundamentally different then the other realms I have studied."
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Post by Toriji on May 5, 2010 21:21:07 GMT -5
"I'll be happy to explain it. I warned t you all that it's a little different here. Hrm how to put this. The events in this dimension aren't driven by the Gods here. There is a fundemental energy that drives the passing of time. The Gods are considered such because of their ability to impose their will on a section of this energy. Like the different colors of the rainbow come from the one color: white. As their first action for creating the universe here they blessed sections of this wild energy wth souls and consciousness. These are the elementals. They aren't literally made of that element, but are the sources and overseers of it. They were created to maintain a natural order to the physical aspects of the universe. They were almost god-like at that point, so to remedy worry about a revolution, the Gods split the original elementals into millions of them. This spread out the power to an acceptable level, but caused variants in personality like Varaj.
"I'm sure you're wondering about why the Gods haven't fixed such an error. That is because they are neither omniscient nor omnipresent. They can only detect such problems on a certain threat level, and Varaj poses them no threat as of now. So that is why we are pinned with this responsibility." He looked up in perplexed thought. "O do hope I haveen't forgotten anything.. Oh! yes of course. This energy. It is the same kind of energy that makes magid work in some of your worlds, so casting strong spells of an opposite charge could easily vanquish some of the weaker elementals."
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Post by raptorman on May 6, 2010 4:23:48 GMT -5
"If he takes physical form then we just fight him." Walter was clearly a bit bored with this discussion on something he didn't really care much about. "Let us just fight the villain and be done with it." He made a fist pumping gesture of sorts as he spoke.
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Post by zandyne on May 6, 2010 6:24:04 GMT -5
There were so many things wrong with what the Prince was telling him, he wasn't quite sure where to begin. The explanation implied that this mere elemental was of higher rank of the prince himself. This thing was of a pantheon, something that was created at the beginning of time if what Toriji said was true. Respecting honors set by royalty was one factor but participating in destroying a source created by a superior order?
The situation was beginning to look grimmer, and the prince far more in the wrong. Perhaps if the elemental was not a patron of the very elements of a world he wouldn't care, but it was. Perhaps if Varaj were an angel or other who had wronged demonkind his loyalty wouldn't falter, but such wasn't the case.
Regardless, his plain mask was flat as ever, "So according to your explanation, we are to destroy a being with an origin far older than yours? You said he was created by the gods to govern an element and you wish to destroy him with your theory of rigid positive/negative neutralization?"
He wasn't appreciating the idea one single bit. The more he learned, the more he sounded like he was on a mission to kill something similar to himself, albeit with a different name. He'd been a lowly demon with mindless purpose but he'd gained his rank through time and toil. Even the superior rank of Toriji did not make him blind to his seemingly growing arrogance as well as charge a doubt that perhaps if the idea of elementals was skewed here, perhaps what 'demons' and 'angels' were as well.
But those thoughts were trivial, this was a matter of business. He took a deep, but bored breath, "Another question that I must ask, what alignment do the rest of these elementals hold with the throne?"
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Post by Toriji on May 6, 2010 16:40:55 GMT -5
"I'll answer your first question first. I hope this answer will shed some more light on the subject. Almost all of the other elementals cunduct their busines as planned. They maintain balance and assure the universe continues on it's path into the future, niether at war or peace with anything. I have no squabble with them, or Varaj for that matter. I am simply defending my father and people.
And that leads me to my answer of your second question. Yes I intend to destroy him, but not because of some self-righteous theory about anything. I'm here to protect my family and those who have pledged their loyalty to my father. If history truly repeats itself, then another attack would be inevitable. By then, who knows, I may even have a son inline for the Throne. And I'm not about to let this happen to my son if I can stop it now."
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Post by ketaro on May 6, 2010 17:10:30 GMT -5
All of this squabbling was beginning to get annoying. And it seemed rather unnecessary even. Hopefully they weren't going to continue with this arguing for the entire month they had before attacking Varaj. He'd just like to get this over with as soon as possible and leave with his promised pay rather than put up with being near these people longer than necessary.
"Look, Dantalion it was? If you're having such a problem with the Prince's reasonings for all this, then just leave. It doesn't matter why he wants to kill Varaj, simply that he wants him killed. We're all here because he asked, and in some cases bought, for our help and if you're not willing to, then don't. Because it really isn't sounding like he's going to persuade you into understanding his reasoning for this anytime soon, or ever. I doubt it'd really be worth the wasted time anyways."
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Post by zandyne on May 6, 2010 20:54:56 GMT -5
"So I ask a simple question of clarification and I receive this? I wonder what boon was promised of you to drag you here but not enough to humor conversation. Your kind has never been good at listening so I recommend you use that talent to tune out my questions if it irks you so."
Curious indeed where the leap was gathered from anyone, he'd had no change in expression or tone, his thoughts were his own.
"My question concerning the alignment of the other elementals is very simple your highness, where or what are Varaj's elemental opposites? I would like to study them to expedite the vanquishing process."
Yes, data would be excellent in lieu of this massacre. Time would also do well in solidifying his thoughts on the matter.
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Post by Toriji on May 6, 2010 21:29:52 GMT -5
"Ah. My appologies, friend. I misunderstood your question. The elemental opposites would ideally be earth, but water could work as a secondary option. The latter would have less of an effect however."
Toriji cast a slightly unpleasant gaze at Gunter. "Pleae be courteous to my other guests. I've explained to everyone their choice in the matter, but they are all here as you an see. Information is the least I can give them as payment for their heroism." The slight glare woe away and faded back into a smile. "So let's not argue, okay?"
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Post by Ninmast on May 6, 2010 21:49:46 GMT -5
It was Camille once more who spoke. "There is something which does not make good sense," it stated calmly. "You say the elementals generate indefinitely their native element. This would mean that Varaj could have simply remained in one place and charged himself to his content. Yet instead, he had to consume other elementals. You cannot say it was so he could produce more electricity, as you cannot produce more than all. You also cannot say that he did it to have the control necessary to handle that amount, as you have already said that their control over their native elements are virtually absolute. Thus I must object to your testimony of the traits of an elemental due to the contradictions inherent in the facts purported. Again, I ask you for full honesty and data on the nature of our antagonist or, if you are incapable through learning or bias of doing so, that you direct us toward a source that can."
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Post by ketaro on May 6, 2010 22:42:20 GMT -5
He didn't bother tossing back an insult at Dantalion for the remark about his kind, moreso because Gunter wasn't quite sure what he was to remark on and then didn't really want to speak to it again now. Gunter did however return Toriji's glare with one of his own, not even attempting to try at talking back to his employer. Hopefully he'd not have to be around Dantalion for the entirety of the mission. He was really not liking that...whatever he was.
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Post by Toriji on May 7, 2010 19:44:02 GMT -5
"Ah." Toriji held his finger up. "You have it all wrong. Were you to have a car battery and the battery from a small toy which would you say is more capable of extending it's power over a longer distance and for a longer time? The analogy may be a little off, but he did this to keep other lightning elementals from countering him, I'd guess. I can't honetly say. But my understanding of the situation is that having two elementals fighting would just be a shoving match. In that case, Varaj has several times more pushing power to make sre his control isn't overriden. Once again, that is just from my understanding."
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Post by shinaobi on May 8, 2010 13:46:17 GMT -5
Quite thoroughly bored by this point, Obadiah rolled his eyes and turned the silver halberd into a small, unadorned dagger, which he started absent-mindedly tossing. "Listen, I'm sure all this..batturee business is very interesting, but could you all just quietly assume you're right instead of trying to convince everybody else?"
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